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Monday 6 June 2011

Client-Consultant Meeting (CCM 1 - 4)





Week 2 – CCM1; Date: Wed (18/05/11); Time: 3-6pm; Venue: EAC Room (BN Lvl2)
Present:  Client (Innovatif Bijak Sdn Bhd) – Ir. Zakaria; all members of SLEC and Cyrus companies.
Agenda:  - Presentation of company profile
-          Cyrus company (group 1) presents first
-          SLEC company (group 2) presents second
Minutes:   - Areas of weakness were outlined by Ir. Zakaria for both groups
-          Minutes of the meeting were all noted down by Teh and to be raised in our next GM
-          The main areas were to amend our company profile for next weeks CCM and to be presented again
-          To allocate amended tasks and sent by e-mail to our group members.

Week 3 – CCM2: Date: Wed (25/05/11); Time: 3-6pm; Venue: EAC Rm (BN lvl2)
Present:  Client (Innovatif Bijak Sdn Bhd) – Ir. Zakaria; all members of SLEC and Cyrus companies.
Agenda:  - Presentation of company profile (amended)
- SLEC company  (group 2) presents first
- Cyrus company (group 3) presents second
Minutes:   - Areas of weakness were outlined by Ir. Zakaria for both groups
- Minutes were all noted down by Teh
- The main areas were to amend our company profile again  week before compiling report and submitting
- To allocate amended tasks and sent by e-mail to our group members.
- Both the presentation slide and a pdf copy of the company profile  have to be submitted
- Discussion on work schedule and the next work is on layout 
- Try out 2 or 3 layouts and see which one is suitable
- All the minutes and criticism are to be prepared by Teh and e-mailed to each group member
- A GM5 has to called on Friday morning  at 9 am to discuss these important issues  


Week 5 – CCM3: Date: Wed (8/06/11); Time: 3-7.40 pm; Venue: EAC Rm (BN lvl2)
Present:  Client (Innovatif Bijak Sdn Bhd) – Ir. Zakaria; all members of SLEC and four representative of the Cyrus companies.
Agenda:
Presentation of company profile (amended)
SLEC company  (group 2) presents first
 Cyrus company (group 3) presents second
Minutes: 
  • Areas of weakness were outlined by Ir. Zakaria for both groups
  • Minutes were all noted down by Teh
  • The main areas were to the proposed layout.
  • To allocate amended tasks and sent by e-mail to our group members.
  • Discussion on work schedule and the layout

  • All the minutes and criticism are to be prepared by Teh and e-mailed to each group member


A GM 13 has to called on Monday morning  at 11 am to discuss these important issues 

PM:
  • Oral presentation skill
  • The layout must be clear, don’t block the landmark
  • Key plan is from architecture drawing
  • Gantt chart progress rearrange
  • Geotechnical department will interface with water & drainage and Highway & transport department in order to come out with the most technically allowable and sustainable level of the site.
  • Layout must show site boundary (whole site plan)
  • Comparison of 2 proposed site location
  • Show the 4 element that will affect the choose of the proposed location
  • In time consideration, more cut more fill, more cut less fill or less cut more fill will take more time?
  • When no exportation or importation of soil, will save more time.
  • The volume of cut and fill will be same or not in order to get to the proposed level, and why?
  • Show the road level and platform level in the layout



Structural
  • Modify the words which using yellow color into others color
  • Take note of the structural grid dimension
  •  Study the architect work concept and build out structural drawing
  • Exit and entrance only showed in architectural drawing but not structural drawing.
  •  Interface with other department about the guideline
  • Structural system is based on requirement.
  • Clarify the reason to use the material.
  • Correction the way of showing the concrete grade
Water & Drainage
  •  MSIG, what is the content of this guideline.
  •  Show the layout in the concepture design of sewerage, drainage and water reticulation
  • Type of valve
  • This department is interface with other department
  • Drainage system, when to use minor and major system, the ARI to be used for minor and major system for hospital.
  • The size of the drain which will be used.
  • Water pipe is locate beside or between the road, what’s the relationship with JKR?
  • Is water reticulation related with MPSJ?



Highway & Environmental

  •  Material for road
  • Show the road connected to existing road in the layout
  • Show environmental concept in the layout
  • Showing the environmental details on drawing
Geotechnical
  • What’s the relation with Jabatan Ketua Pengarah Tanah and Galian
  • Only show civil work
  • Show layout in conceptual design

General comment in Cyrus Companies.
  •  Examine the valley of the layout
  •  Cut more can fill in those valley or other  lower land that not being used
  • Check existing stream.
  • According to guideline, there is preferred to be one culvert than multiple culvert at the same location, it’s for easier to maintenance and won’t be stuck easily. STP must have some distance apart from the building.
  • Both WT tank must be together.
  • Composite design for RC.
  • Design complicated structural with easy concept
  • Road design must connect to the access road.

Week 7 – CCM4: Date: Wed (22/06/11); Time: 3-7.50 pm; Venue: EAC Rm (BN lvl2)

Present:  Client (Innovatif Bijak Sdn Bhd) – Ir. Zakaria; all members of SLEC and Cyrus companies.
Agenda:  - Presentation of company profile (amended)
-          Cyrus company (group 3) presents first
-          SLEC company  (group 2) presents second

Minutes:  
  • Areas of weakness were outlined by Ir. Zakaria for both groups
  •  Minutes were all noted down by Teh
  • The main areas were the concepture design
  • Discussion on Gantt Chart
  • All the minutes and criticism are to be prepared by Teh and e-mailed to each group member
  • A GM 18 has to called on Friday morning  at 9.30 am to discuss these important issues 

General comment in Cyrus Companies.
  • Revised and showed the Road ad Platform level
  • Final Discharge
  • Tapping Point
  • The Slab system to be used
  • Environment part need to show the water browser, check dam,  temporary earth drain, silk trap, silk fence, etc.
  •  Revised EMP
  • Drainage, need to study and revised the catchment.


PM:
  •  Layout 1 and 2 location
  • Gantt Chart Error
  •  Layout 1 have problem
  • Show the Table which compare  Layout 1 and layout 2 due to each technical department, is it critical ?

Structural
  • Cost need to follow department of statistic, with list and prove, or can get from QS or which publish by JKR.
  •  Pre stress slab can be considered.
  •   Beam slab system: advantage part, check the long spam
  •  Advantage of flat slab system, check the term “ do not required reinforcement.”
  • Check the Disadvantage on medium span.
  •  Supporting Brittle why not suitable? Client comment shouldn’t have any problem with that.
  •  Check the low floor to floor high, is it disadvantage or advantage? It can save cost of bricks, piping and etc.
  •  Add photo for the slabs system.
  •  Need to explain more detail about ripped slabs.
  •  Composite slab, check the fire resistance.
  • Basic ratio can go to 125, try check.
  •   For M&E building should be 175, show the proof why it’s 150mm.
  • Car park should be unbraced cause no wall
  • Check the car park have wall or not
  •  H for column is 4m

Water & Drainage
  • Distribution cost for water tapping.
  •  The system of water piping, is loop or branch.
  • Check the pressure of water tapping point.
  •  After checking pressure only decide which water tank system to be provided.
  • Consider the cost of loop and branch system
  •  What is Q pre and Q post, what to do when Q post is > Q pre.
  •  OSD system cannot be on hill
  • STP should be low elevation
  • When can use uPVC pipe.
  • Drop manhole and normal manhole.
  • Check the final discharge and Final discharge from the authority.
  • Revised the location of Water tank, detention pond and STP.
  • Revised the catchment.

Highway & Environmental
  • Check all the environment assessment.
  • Road design should connect to the main road.
  • The speed and length of acceleration and deceleration lane.

Geotechnical
  • List the BH clearly.
  • Cut profile for determine foundation of building.
  •  When hit the gravel, should be bed rock,check back at 12m, section c-c
  •  Why choose layout 1 not layout 2?
  •  Need more BH point

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